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title: Timestamps
weight: 8
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### Excluding Timestamps from JSON
If you want to exclude timestamps from JSON output of role/permission pivots, you can extend the Role and Permission models into your own App namespace and mark the pivot as hidden:
```php
protected $hidden = ['pivot'];
```
### Adding Timestamps to Pivots
If you want to add timestamps to your pivot tables, you can do it with a few steps:
- update the tables by calling `$table->timestamps();` in a migration
- extend the Permission and Role models and add `->withTimestamps();` to the BelongsToMany relationshps for `roles()` and `permissions()`
- update your User models (wherever you use the HasRoles or HasPermissions traits) by adding `->withTimestamps();` to the BelongsToMany relationshps for `roles()` and `permissions()`